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The Rev. Jay Dennis Heterosexual Divorce Time Tracker - Rick Warren Edition
Posted: 08 Jan 2009 06:11 AM CST
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You didnt think I forgot, did you? It has now been two months since Pastor Jay Dennis, R-First Baptist Church at the Mall, led the fight to protect the institution of marriage from marauding homosexual monogamy, committment, and fashion sense. I continue to wait breathlessly for him to take up once again the burden/ego trip of moral leadership to fight heterosexual divorce or to prevent heterosexual second, third, or fourth marriages in concert with Biblical teaching.
Like many people, gay and straight, who invested energy and emotion in both the presidential election and the losing fights against the anti-gay amendments, my immediate reaction to the Rick Warren inauguration annoucement was to feel punched in the gut. I have since come around a bit, though not for the reaching out reasons cited by the invaluable Cary McMullen. Ill explain further in a moment.
But first, I want to draw your attention to the specific reason why selecting Rick Warren, at this particular moment in time, spawned the reaction it did.
Cary put it like this in a recent column: Obama is trying to include people that his party hasnt welcomed much, and not everyone may like it, as evidenced by the backlash from liberal groups over his invitation to Warren to deliver the invocation at the inauguration next month.
First, liberal and gay-friendly are not necessarily synonymous. And second, trying to include people that his party hasnt welcomed much isnt why there was backlash. The why is far more specific and simple: Warren actively supported the Prop. 8 reversal of marriage rights in California. And in a nastier move, just days before the announcement, he said this in a wide-ranging and fascinating interview in BeliefNet:
The issue to me, I’m not opposed to that as much as I’m opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I’m opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I’m opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.
First, polygamy certainly has been - and still is in many places - part of any 5,000-year marriage definition. But that aside, its funny that hes not talking about the redefinition of marriage to include no-fault heterosexual divorce and multiple marriages. To his credit, Warren does say point blank that divorce is a far worse threat to marriage than including gays. He then proceeds to shrug. He is not asked why practicing homosexuals are not permitted to be members of his church, but people in second marriages are. I hope Cary would agree that Obamas party is far more welcoming of Warren than Warren is of homosexuals.
But I digress. This conflation of gay marriage - and therefore gay relationships - with incest, child rape, and polygamy happens constantly among critics. Warren actually left out bestiality, which also shows up constantly. If you allow gay marriage, the refrain goes, you have to allow people to hump goats. Im sorry, but that is patently stupid. First of all, incest, child rape, and goat humping are illegal. Gay sex is not. Very simply, the realm of civil law does not consider these equally lawless acts. The realm of common sense doesnt consider them equal either. And theres a further peculiarity in that people like Warren often talk about how they love gay people and have gay friends, etc., etc., while maintaining that what theyre doing is the equivalent of child rape and thus cannot be codified in law.
Let me assure you, I dont love child rapists; I dont have incestual friends. Why on earth would you not be homophobic if you truly believe gay unions have same the deleterious effect on society as child rape?
This is typical of the incoherence and intellectual dishonesty and confusion at the heart of most arguments against gay marriage - and more specifically, state recognition of gay relationships. In fact, Warren, in a subsequent clarification of his remarks, comes much closer to an honest assessment of what this is really about. He writes:
Much of this debate is not really about civil rights, but a desire for approval. The fact that 70% of blacks supported Prop 8 shows they don’t believe it is a civil rights issue. Gays in California already have their rights. What they desire is approval and validation from those who disagree with them, and they are willing to force it by law if necessary. Any disapproval is quickly labeled “hate speech. Imagine if we held that standard in every other disagreement Americans have? There would be no free speech. That’s why, on the traditional marriage side, many saw Prop 8 as a free speech issue: Don’t force me to validate a lifestyle I disagree with. It is not the same as marriage.”
Again, as Warren all but admits here. This has virtually nothing to do with marriage protection. It has everything to do with gay stigmitization. And while California has civil unions, Florida does not. Gays in Florida do not have the rights of those in California. Thats why Amendment 2 in Florida was so disgusting. It was an overt attack on committed gay relationships - not a defense of marriage. Im actually sympathetic to people who, out of sincere respect of tradition, object to including gay relationships in the peculiar social/civil/religious institution we call marriage. I think they are wrong, but I can respect that point-of-view. But I think most critics of gay marriage - and virtually all the political/religious leaders like Warren - dont hold that position at all. Every one of these votes becomes a referendum on gayness itself - a referendum on validation. Thus, in Florida, religious leaders like Dennis are in the position of seeing no moral difference between hooking up at a gay bar and committed 20-year relationships - mostly because the whole idea of gay intimacy of any kind freaks them out. I have nothing but contempt for this belief. And it shows that many churches have no idea what to do with gay people. They just want them to go away.
On top of this, Warren offers this free speech issue canard as well. He says unless religious leaders get to strip gay people of marriage rights, their free speech is impinged. Huh? Look, no one is going to force any church or pastor to marry gays in a religious ceremony. Ever. That is a fundamental separation of church and state issue. I suppose some yokel might sue for attention. He would be laughed out of court and shouted down by the vast majority of the gay community and its supporters. For what its worth, I would write just as intensely against any such thing as I do in favor of marriage. The free speech thing argument is ridiculous. We are talking about civil, government-sponsored marriage, not religious marriage.
For too long, anti-gay leaders have been able to hide behind abstraction and ambiguity and the blurry distinctions between marriage and civil unions. And thats why Ive come around on Warrens inauguration prayer. Though I dont think this was Obama intention, it has forced him to account for his words. His church has already dropped some anti-gay language from its web site, according to many reports. He supposedly told Melissa Etheredge that he had said some stupid things and been misquoted on others (again, not specific). Hes been spinning and clarifiying and a little uncomfortable. Good.
Now, if he and others really wanted to reach out, they could stop comparing loving gay relationships to incest and child rape. And they could drop prohibition of gay membership in their churches. After all, people living openly in any number of sins - including second marriages - are welcome. That has nothing to do with marriage, but it does acknowledge basic gay humanity and dignity. That would be reaching out we could believe in.
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Foster Parenting for the SPCA of Polk County
Posted: 07 Jan 2009 09:42 PM CST
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Im back in the foster parenting business. Yesterday I picked up two six-week-old female puppies to foster for two weeks until they are ready for adoption. These are terrier/retriever mix and as usual, they are as sweet as can be.
Ive been a SPCA foster parent for more than a year now, and I cant stress enough how fun and rewarding it is. Sure, its hard work. Young puppies require attention. That is precisely why foster parenting is so valuable. Young animals simply dont thrive in a shelter environment the way they do when they are in someones home and receiving lots of love and attention. It makes me feel good, knowing that I help give these puppies a great start in life before they find their forever homes.
Ive said before that foster parenting isnt for everyone, because it does require some effort. However, I blogged a few days ago about an opportunity to help the SPCA in a way that DOESNt require a great deal of effort.
I encourage all of you to take a few minutes to help the SPCA of Polk County by selecting them to receive a million dollar makeover. Once youre signed up on the site, select SPCA of Polk County in zip code 33813. There also are lots of other things you can do on this site to continue earning points for our local shelter. For example, you can write reviews of your veterinarian, groomer, the type of food you feed your pets, etc. Its a neat site for pet lovers. Go check it out, and dont forget to vote for the SPCA of Polk County!
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Detroit Tigers Spring Training Tickets on Sale Saturday
Posted: 07 Jan 2009 11:21 AM CST
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Individual game tickets for the Tigers 2009 Spring Training games go on sale this Saturday (10th) at 10 am est. If you choose to get tickets in person, I recommend you get there early. I promise you there will be a line and that both the Yankees games will probably sell out early. Dont worry about the Red Sox games selling out because the team isnt coming to Lakeland this year.
At 10 am tickets also go on sale by phone 866-66-TIGER (866-668-4437) or online at MLB.com.
Or, if you know you want to get the full Spring Training experience, you can get Spring Training season tickets at the box office. Call (863) 413-4140 to get seat availability and price information.
Keep checking Lakeland Local for Tigers and Flying Tigers information.
2009 Detroit Tigers Home Spring Schedule
Schedule subject to change. All times ET.
Date Opponent Time
02/25 1:05 pm Braves
02/28 1:05 pm Mets
03/02 1:05 pm Fla. Southern Col.
03/03 1:05 pm Venezuela
03/04 1:05 pm Panama
03/05 1:05 pm Nationals
03/08 1:05 pm Yankees
03/11 1:05 pm Yankees
03/13 1:05 pm Mets
03/14 1:05 pm Blue Jays
03/16 1:05 pm Cardinals
03/17 1:05 pm Astros
03/20 1:05 pm Nationals
03/22 1:05 pm Marlins
03/26 6:05 pm Rays
03/29 1:05 pm Braves
03/31 1:05 pm Nationals
04/01 1:05 pm Braves
04/02 1:05 pm Blue Jays
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Comments
Nothing has changed and Rick Warren remains a virulently anti-gay bigot. His friends are liars. Though this shouldn't surprise anyone. I've found that far-right bigots have a rather difficult time with the commandment concerning "bearing false witness." Well, in an effort to keep the controversy over Obama's selection of an anti-gay bigot to give the invocation at his swearing, Rick Warren's friends are not only accusing civil rights advocates of "intolerance" (because they refuse to tolerate intolerance - get it?), but, as usual, their entire defense of Warren is one big lie. Per Warren's buddies, the reason everyone is so upset with Rick Warren coming to the inauguration is that he doesn't support gay marriage. That's a flat out lie. The reason people have a problem with Rick Warren is because the far-right bigot equated gays and lesbians with pedophiles and practitioners of incest. But to acknowledge that - to actually tell people the real reason Rick Warren has people so incensed - might jeopardize the religious right's ongoing mission to deceive the majority of Americans into embracing their hate-filled extremist agenda.